Miss Worldly

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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

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  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  Miss Worldly

  Thanks freegirl2006 and blonde.

  That makes me feel very sad that people are taught these things.

  Freegirl, I'm sorry about your Dad. I guess that teaching makes a lot of people feel like your Mom. It must have been a comfort to your Mom. x
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  This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

  by Miss Worldly in

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  ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

  sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

  from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

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  Miss Worldly

  Ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but I would like to know what sort of explanation the JW's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after Armageddon on earthly paradise.

  Sorry if I sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.

  So, what if a young married JW couple are living their life, waiting for the Big A, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies. From what I know, if a JW dies, that's it. They are dead, nothing. But come the great tribulation, they will be reserected.

  What if a few years down the line the surviving spouse (I can't bring myself to say 'mate') finds love again and remarries? As they would be allowed to do as they are scripturally free to marry.

  Now come the time of the Big A. Earthly paradise is restored. And so is the first spouse. A spouse that died believing that they and their marriage partner would be in paradise together, but now finds that their partner has remarried and loves the new person they married *awkward*.

  What would happen? Because they died do they have to forfeit the happiness they thought they were getting? Does the surviving spouse have to leave the second spouse? How would the second spouse feel about it? . . . I don't know, but it doesn't sound much like paradise for any of them.

  I would just like to hear a rational explanation for this dilemma. I can't seem to come up with any solution in my head. Apart from ones that wouldn't please Jehovah!

  Thanks in advance
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

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  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  Miss Worldly

  I beg your pardon but, I think you will find that, I, am pale.emperor.

  Seriously though, I have no words of advice. I just know that you have a hell of a lot of support from the guys on here. Take it, revel in it and stick two fingers up.

  Sending best wishes.
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  Jehovah's Witness Church Release Statement

  by truthseekeriam in

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  "we are saddened to hear about the death of prince rogers nelson, who was baptized as one of jehovah’s witnesses in 2003," the church said in a statement obtained by people.

  the church said that prince "found fulfillment as a witness and in sharing his faith with others.

  http://www.people.com/article/prince-dead-jehovah-witness-release-statement.

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  Do they know something we mere mortals don't? . . What happens if the results of Prince's death is from Drug abuse, as some of the speculation says (don't get me wrong, I hope not!!! I liked Prince.) . . . But will they retract the statement? Make excuses for him or themselves?

  . . I think they may have been a little previous in releasing a statement, it may come back to bite them on the bum!
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  A Chance To Plant A Seed That We All Have

  by dubstepped in

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  i'd like to brainstorm something with the rest of you.

  this summer at the regional conventions we all know by now that a talk on shunning is going to be given.

  we all know what that talk will likely point to.

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  Miss Worldly

  Ooooh, it came out a bit big, sorry!

  I just thought this could sum up the sentiment???
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  A Chance To Plant A Seed That We All Have

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
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  i'd like to brainstorm something with the rest of you.

  this summer at the regional conventions we all know by now that a talk on shunning is going to be given.

  we all know what that talk will likely point to.

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  If all the world were JWs....

  by Tornintwo in

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  in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

  but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

  first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

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  Miss Worldly

  Ok, so my take. Sorry if I'm being dumb (it's because I'm worldly!) but, if all the world were JW's. . . There would be no need for JWs as there would be no 'badness' left in the world........

  ...... Either that or Armageddon really happened.........
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  If you went back in time, would you be a god?

  by Simon in

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  2. entertainment

  we just finished watching outlander which is about a woman who goes back in time ~200 years from the end of wwii.

  she ends up in the scottish highlands in the middle of the jacobite uprising.

  it's a great show although the last episodes were a little graphic (they make game of thrones seem like sesame street).. but it got me thinking ... if you went back in time would you in fact be the 'god' you may imagine because of your knowledge of modern technology and the future?.

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  Miss Worldly

  Ooh,ooh, not seen the movie, I don't want to spoil the books, I've read all 8 of them, now waiting for the ninth one! Brilliant. Very sadly ( for most other people) I've read the first one probably, about. . . .erm. . 10 times. . . (Shhhh!)

  i think, much like Clare, we would be seen as someone to be wary of, a witch, a healer. But as she came from the 1940's today's technology would be a damn sight more frightening to 18c highlanders!!

  As for our knowledge, I don't think we particularly have much more knowledge than we did then. Our basic knowledge comes from past generations, the vast majority of other things we know, come from our technology.

  Ha! Just read this back, it makes no sense whatsoever! Sorry! I know what I mean.

  it was the Jamie & Clare that did it!
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  'Worldly' man looking for a little more understanding...

  by Verecocha in

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  saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.

  what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.

  there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.

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  I wish I could be as positive as you. I'm sorry your journey is at an end, I feel for you, I really do.

  As far as my story goes, I am told I'm still very much loved and missed,(this doesn't help, it's wonderful and heartbreaking at the same time) but ours is an impossible situation that will/can never end they way we want. Walking away seems much too hard, but at least I know as you do, Jehovah comes first! (Sarcasm is now my only defence!)

  I'm all fought out. Guess you are too. It's pointless.

  "You never know how strong you are until strong is the only choice you have"
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  'Worldly' man looking for a little more understanding...

  by Verecocha in

  1. social
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  saw similar title in a google search so thought i'd read more and now simply have to share my experience if anything to hear that i'm not insane and it is that simple.. met and fell madly in love with a witness, and her with me.

  what began as love at first sight turned into a 6 year relatiomship which simply ended very bluntly.

  there were many painful twists and turns along the way, first from her inability to leave her husband, then my mistake in finding someone else as i simply couldn't take the pain of her coming and going with such simplicity, but in the end she got a divorce and suffered many consequences within 'the truth', and i sorted my issues which were many and admittedly dug with my own hands and stupidity in trying to protect a young girl who had done no wrong in this long affair.. eventually we found ourself on what i believed to be the home straight.

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  Miss Worldly

  Hey Verecocha, first of all, I'm not supposed to be here anymore, said I'd quit, but your story made me have to reply. I am/was in a very similar situation to you, as you can guess from my name, I'm not a JW.

  I'd love to say 'run for your life' 'you're better off out of it' etc, but I know where you are coming from and it ain't that easy! I'd love to say, 'hang in there' it'll get better, but I KNOW it doesn't.

  While I don't condone having a relationship with a married person, we don't know all the facts. So, it's not mine to judge.

  It makes no sense. And it hurts like Hell. The too-ing and fro-ing comes from the deep seated illogical guilt, fear and goodness knows what else! When the JW mask slips and you see the person underneath you feel you are gaining ground, then BOOM, the mask goes back on. We, are bad associations, we, in the eyes of JWs, will never be good enough. As much as they love and care for us, FEAR + GUILT = control. We will only get our hearts broken, time and again. They WILL be 'encouraged' to stop 'associating' with us. it doesn't matter what we do.

  As far as I can work out, unless they Wake Up, there is not a cat in Hells chance of this ending well.

  I'm sorry I can't be more help, I'm sorry I don't have any answers, I need them myself. If you ever find any, let me know!! Good luck my friend!